My baby’s dad is an alcoholic and I know his liver is damage from his drinking, not only that I got an PFA on him for his abuse on me. I don’t want to hurt him with the baby I just want the courts to help me to order him to get treatments for his alcohol, depression and there is a chance that he is bi-polar. He is not ready to be a dad but he did watch my other son, while I worked on the weekends. The only bad side is he left my son home alone so he can go to the bar to drink and that is when the abuse started. I had to come home from work and did not make money because of his drinking. I want him to have supervised visitations because he will drink if he does not have his visitations supervise and with his drinking he will not be able to care for our baby. I going to file full sole custody of the baby next month so when the baby is born my attorney can schedule a hearing date for custody. Should I file child support in the baby’s dad’s condition. He has threaten suicide on me.
If my baby’s dad won’t get treatments for his alcohol problem, will there be a chance I can get full custody?
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#1 by brutfull on June 27, 2010 - 4:33 pm
Yes
#2 by tkron31 on June 27, 2010 - 4:35 pm
Don’t listen to his suicide threats. If he wants to hurt himself that’s his business. And, yes, get full custody, with or without child support. The baby’s the important thing here.
#3 by Ali on June 27, 2010 - 4:39 pm
Would he be willing to sign over his parental rights before the baby is born
#4 by tictickchick on June 27, 2010 - 4:55 pm
Yes, file for sole custody and child support. As long as he is alive he needs to be financially responsible for those kids. And there is NO way in hell that I would let that man have unsupervised visits. Any judge in his right mind would say the same thing.
As for him threatening suicide…he’s just playing your emotions. Use that against him in court too…tell the judge that he has threatened to harm himself. Just shows his frame of mind is sick right now and unsuitable for raising/caring for a child.
#5 by mycki_d_1972 on June 27, 2010 - 4:59 pm
from what you said, you should get full custody and yes you should be able to make him get treatment and also he should be made to go for counceling. good luck in going for custody
#6 by Katie Victoria on June 27, 2010 - 5:24 pm
not only does he need help with his alcohol problem, but also for his suicide threat. You should file FULL custody, if the father refuses to get help, he could eventually hurt the baby in a druken state. The court should have no problem granting you full coustody. His suicide threat is not any reason to risk your baby’s health!
#7 by mommy2savannah51405 on June 27, 2010 - 6:09 pm
You can easily get full custody..and have SUPERVISED visitations at your request.
be ready to prove he is an alcoholic and he has done the things you state. and if he is bi-polar..make him get checked by mental health people
#8 by Kota on June 27, 2010 - 6:46 pm
You need to file for the custody, and child care as soon as possible. The suicide issue is something that shows why even more so he should have no contact with either child or you. Because of the condition he suffers from most judges won’t permit him to have even supervised visits until he completes rehab. Good luck
#9 by it's a girl on June 27, 2010 - 7:39 pm
yes hun you can do that you have to show that your a better parent but it shouldn’t be hard. to me it sounds like your on the right road but don’t let the love you have for him interfere with the positive decisions that you are trying to make.
#10 by Cricket65 on June 27, 2010 - 7:42 pm
First of all if he threatens suicide you could have him checked into a hospital, don’t let his threats keep you from doing what you know in your heart is right. You need to focus on you and your baby right now.
You have an excellent chance to get full custody, I doubt that any judge would put a child in a situation that his daddy is in. Yes he needs supervised visits. If he is drinking, there is a chance that he will be so drunk he will be unable to take care of the baby, and that could put the child in danger.
You are this childs protector, it is your “job” to make sure he is safe from harm, and that can include keeping him from his daddy until his daddy gets the help he needs.
Good Luck and God Bless
#11 by babyshadow85 on June 27, 2010 - 8:12 pm
yes there is a big chance u can get full custody
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http://parents.berkeley.edu/advice/family/custody.html
Child custody can be the most controversial issues during a divorce. Child custody battles often send children into the heat of argument, and child custody is never fair to one parent or the other. Laws are ever changing and giving child custody to the father or the mother is an ongoing battle that must be decided in certain cases. Learning more about the rules, statutes, and regulations dealing with child custody, you will be able to find loopholes and examples of how solution can be found to just about any particular situation involving child custody.
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Choosing a lawyer is just like choosing a doctor. You have to be able to trust your lawyer and know that they are going to ‘fight’ for what you want and not just get the court case in and out of the way. Your lawyer should offer you advice and should answer all your questions about your case. If you are asking questions without getting answers, then maybe you should be seeking out a different lawyer.
There are many heated discussions and battles that will take place during divorce about money. When you are getting a divorce and there are children involved, child custody and child support become very important topics. Child support and child custody are issues that are going to walk hand in hand.
One last thing that you might want to think about when deciding if you want to fight for sole custody or if you are going to have joint or shared custody is that you could still be paying the same amount of child support even if you have the child three or four days of each week. Consider having your lawyer use this fact in your child support case when you have gotten everything you wanted when fighting your child custody case!
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http://www.expertlaw.com/forums/showthread.php?t=3935
Joint Custody vs. Sole Custody
& Residential Parent Status – Who gets the Kids?
Joint Custody vs. Sole Custody
Often, divorcing couples with children are most concerned over matters relating to custody and visitation. At ISABEL M. MILLARD we work closely with many allied professionals (child psychologists and evaluators) to ensure that our custody and visitation agreements serve the best interests of the children as well as the parents.
Illinois recognizes two basic forms of child custody: joint custody and sole custody. Joint custody has gained both notoriety and popularity over the past several years. At its best, joint custody allows for the maximum involvement of both parents in the lives of their children – signaling to the children that, despite their parents’ differences, their needs are what is most important. At its worst, joint custody can serve as a source of ongoing disagreement and litigation between the parties – signaling to the children that they are merely pawns in their parents never-ending battles.
Successful joint custody is not easy. It takes hard work, dedication and a great deal of compromise. Children grow and change and their needs fluctuate year to year. As such, the Parenting Agreement that made perfect sense at the time of the divorce must be reviewed and updated regularly. If parents are not willing to recognize this simple fact and work together for the best interests of their children, joint custody will not be successful.
Joint custody requires parents to consult and cooperate on all significant matters concerning the children – education, health care, religious training, etc. If the parties did not co-parent the children during the marriage, there is little reason to believe that joint parenting will occur after the divorce.
A common misperception among parents is the notion that joint custody means equal parenting time. Not so. Parenting time for the non-custodial parent is the same in both sole and joint custody situations. Another common misperception is that an award of joint custody will prevent the custodial parent from moving out of state with the children. A custodial parent cannot unilaterally move out of state absent agreement of the other parent or an order of Court, regardless of whether he or she holds joint or sole custody of the child.
Residential Status – Who Gets the Kids?
The Court can award joint custody only when such an arrangement serves the best interest of the child. When the parties are in agreement about joint custody, they will enter into a Joint Parenting Agreement. One parent will be designated as the “residential” parent with whom the child resides. Child support is paid to the residential parent, in the same amount as paid to a parent having sole custody. Residential status does not confer additional rights to that parent. It simply indicates with whom the child resides after the divorce.
The Judge is mandated by law to consider the following items when deciding which custodial arrangement serves the best interest of the child:
the wishes of the child’s parent or parents as to his custody;
the wishes of the child as to his custodian;
the interaction and interrelationship of the child with his parent or parents, his siblings and any other person who may significantly affect the child’s best interest;
the child’s adjustment to his home, school and community;
the mental and physical health of all individuals involved;
the physical violence or threat of physical violence by the child’s potential custodian, whether directed against the child or directed against another person;
the occurrence of ongoing abuse as defined in Section 103 of the Illinois Domestic Violence Act of 1986, whether directed against the child or directed against another person; and
the willingness and ability of each parent to facilitate and encourage a close and continuing relationship between the other parent and the child”.
(750 ILCS 5/602).
If the parents cannot reach an agreement on custody, the court can require the parties to attend mediation. The mediation process is used to assess what is in the best interests of the children as far as custody and visitation arrangements are concerned. A mediator is a neutral third party who helps the parties reach their own agreement. Please see our page on mediation for further information.
If the parties cannot agree on custody (and mediation is unsuccessful), the court will order a custody evaluation. First, the Court will appoint a custody evaluator. A custody evaluator is a psychiatrist or psychologist with special training and expertise in custody issues. The evaluator will meet with each of the parents separately, conduct psychological testing of each parent (and possibly the children), observe each parent interacting with the children, interview the children and others familiar with the family (i.e. teachers, therapists, doctors, family members). Once the interview portion is concluded, the custody evaluator will write a detailed report to the Court, making specific recommendations about who should receive custody and what visitation arrangements are in the children’s best interests. The custody evaluator is the Court’s witness, thus, the Judge will give great weight to the evaluator’s recommendations in making the ruling. The cost of the custody evaluation is usually borne by the parties, in proportion to their respective incomes. If either mother or father does not agree to the custody evaluator’s recommendations, a second custody evaluation, with a new evaluator, may possibly occur. The cost of the second evaluation is always borne by the party requesting same.
http://www.divorce-law-illinois.com/custody.html
http://www.law.cornell.edu/wex/index.php/Child_custody
http://www.custody911.com/frameset_child_custody_911.htm
#12 by iron_wolf1952 on June 27, 2010 - 8:40 pm
You could lose both children if the authorities find out you left the boy with a known alcoholic that leaves him alone while he goes out to get drunk. I would file for full custody and nail his drunken butt for support to help you, while you work and support the kids-as well. If he is saying he will commit suicide then I would definately NOT let that man watch my kids-if I were you. He needs to grow up and take charge of his responsabilities. Sounds like a little jail time would sober him up and make him realize that the kid games are over.
#13 by jj02 on June 27, 2010 - 8:45 pm
First of all let me say that you need to do whats best for your child. You child does not need to be around someone who is abuse and has an alcohol problem. I think that you should try to get sole custody of your child because if the father was so concerned about his son he would have gotten help for his problem a long time ago. As far as filing for child support you should have done that as soon as you had your child. Your child needs to be financially taking care of as well as mentally and emotionally.
~If this guy was so serious about suicide then he would have already done so. He is threating you because he can and its obviously working.
#14 by Malaris on June 27, 2010 - 9:31 pm
Yes – especially if he has a history of being abusive and/or having uncontrolled episodes of rage/anger.
#15 by pelotahombre on June 27, 2010 - 9:37 pm
what’s more important, the well-being of you and your children or the well-being of an abusive, neglectful partner? Unfortunately, sometimes you have to chose between the two. Why do you want to allow him to have visitations if he’s leading a lifestyle that is detrimental to himself and your children? He left your child alone to go drinking for crying out loud.
Sometimes you have to count your losses and cut someone loose. I realize you’re going to do it your way, but I don’t understand why you would want to keep this guy in your life. He’s harmful to you and your kids. Get full custody and make him clean up his act before he can visit the kids. Otherwise I see this as little more than a recipe for disaster.
#16 by Veronica A on June 27, 2010 - 10:21 pm
yes u can. Dont worry u will have custody of your daughter everything will be ok.