should a federal judge rule in favor of atheist plaintiffs opposed to prayers at the inauguration?


why is it that so many special interest groups file frivolous lawsuits to cram the courts with their cry-baby interests?

i read today (link included) that atheist groups have filed a federal lawsuit to stop prayers being said at obama’s swearing in. this judge finds merit in hearing this case, but the justices of the us supreme court (as well as other courts) refused to hear a case(s) that demanded that obama prove that he is, in fact, a legal citizen of the united states of america, therefore, allowed under the constitution to sit as the president.

okay, so now obama has said to us all, in a news conference, that he’s a citizen of the united states, “case closed” (without real proof presented, only a “certificate of live birth,” which is not the same as a notarized and stamped birth certificate), and there is not a judge in the land that will hear anyone’s lawsuit to force mr. obama to provide the birth certificate. THAT would be an important case because the CONSTITUTION requires a president to be native born so that his/her loyalties cannot be doubted. that is the reason behind that constitutional clause, and mr. obama was a professor of constitutional law. but since he says that the “case’s closed,” it just goes over our heads, as though because The One(c)(TM) has said it, we are not to question authority. but…

but…

there is nothing in the constitution or the bill of rights (the amendments to the constitution) that calls for separation of church and state. look it up on wikipedia.

it is a widely held false belief that there is wording in the constitution to separate church from state, although i watch here in chicago as new “churches” pop up all over the place–even in store fronts–so that these groups don’t have to pay real estate taxes or any taxes, for that matter. but the minute there’s a fire at a church, who puts it out? the fire department of the municipality that they will not pay. if they were getting robbed of their icons, who would come to catch the thieves? why, of course, the municipal police department! if churches do not have to pay taxes, then why don’t they hire their own police and firemen? but you have never heard of anyone filing suit to make the churches do that, have you?

well, read all about this ridiculous plea to a federal judge here:

http://www.cnsnews.com/public/content/article.aspx?RsrcID=41559

oh! how it injures atheists that prayers would be spoken at the inauguration!!! how terrible it must be for them to handle money, since there are words printed on it that say “in god we trust.” what is wrong with a nation looking to god? who says that there is no god? just because atheists do not believe in god does not mean that there is no god. people that believe in god do not bother them. in fact, they are generous to them to a fault. some churches–dig this–have even set up “services” for atheists! and, there are special AA (alcoholics anonymous) groups just for atheists because atheists have said that they object to asking their “higher power” to assist them in staying sober. c’mon, how ridiculous can it get? are the plaintiffs homosexuals hiding under an umbrella called The Atheist Umbrella, just so that they can have their case heard because they are opposed to the preacher rick warren?

the president of this country SHOULD look to his higher power, a/k/a “god,” for help running this troubled country. and just so that i do not get accused of going into a r – a nt here, i want to hear what you have to say about it. i seek all of your opinions, even those of you that are atheists or in some other way opposed to those at the inauguration that will say prayers, any of them (see the link).

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  1. #1 by INSOMNIAC on April 26, 2010 - 10:45 pm

    No and a very small portion of the citizenry should not be able to change something the majority want.~

  2. #2 by Randy on April 26, 2010 - 10:55 pm

    No, the judge should rule against the plaintiffs. I have this opinion as being an Atheist for all of my adult life (I’m currently 67).

    Two factors apply here.

    First, as you correctly point out there is no part of the Constitution against such an act.

    Secondly it is a personal choice of the individual taking the oath.

    In general, it is my opinion that there is a segment of Atheists who are extreme in their actions. The Constitution makes the point only that the government cannot support a State religion. Beyond that it is a personal private sector issue. It is little different that taking the oath when bearing witness in a court case. those who believe in religion take their oath with their hand on a bible and, those who don’t believe in a personal religion merely affirm to tell the truth.

    As an aside, this has nothing to do with the majority dominating over a minority. If nothing else the Constitution protects the minority (a minority of one) but this is not such an issue.

  3. #3 by pstottmfc on April 26, 2010 - 11:08 pm

    I agree that there should be a more thorough investigation into O’s eligibility. However this will not happen as he is the anointed designate of those overlords whose minions attend Bilderberg meetings and whose flunkies fill the seats on the Trilateral Commission and the Council on Foreign Relations. They have but to beckon and heads of state come running to do their bidding.

    However, concerning the saying of prayers – although I am no longer an advocate or member of any organized religion (I’m not an Atheist either), I have no objection unless there is a stipulation somewhere in the Constitution that religion should be kept separate from government functions. If there is I am not aware of it. In the absence of such stipulation I say it is Obama’s call.

    I do however believe in the advisability of keeping secular power free from interference from any organized religious groups, and ensuring that legislation is not based on religious grounds.

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